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Oct. 12, 2026

Talk Up to the Jury, Never Down, with Tom Kline

Why does one of the country's most accomplished trial lawyers wear a black suit to court every day with no cufflinks or frills? Because he wants jurors to know exactly what to expect from him. Tom Kline, who co-founded Kline & Specter with Shanin Specter, has won seven-figure-plus jury verdicts in each of the past five decades. Hosts Ben Gideon and Rahul Ravipudi ask Tom how he found his own courtroom style after learning from his mentor, James E. Beasley, and why he chooses to talk up to jurors
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Sept. 28, 2026

You Become the Lawyers You Learn From, with Todd Smith and Brian LaCien

Some lawyers spend their careers avoiding the toughest cases. Todd A. Smith and Brian LaCien built their Chicago firm, Smith LaCien LLP, on taking them. Together, they've secured over 100 verdicts and settlements above a million dollars. On this episode, they walk host Rahul Ravipudi through a $51 million emergency-room verdict — the third-highest med-mal award for an adult in Illinois — that turned on a single missing blood test, and a railroad crossing case they navigated around brutal federal
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Sept. 18, 2026

Marketing Jiu-Jitsu: In-House vs. Agency Marketing, with Matthew Silva

Most law firms cycle through marketing agencies feeling taken advantage of, stuck with the same cookie-cutter product every competitor gets. Matthew Silva, director of marketing at Gideon Asen, argues that the fix is bringing the work in-house — someone whose focus is your firm alone, not one account among an agency's many clients. Hosts Ben Gideon and Jeff Wright dig into the decision to hire in-house vs. an agency, and why separating brand awareness from lead generation changed how they spend.
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Sept. 14, 2026

Suing Big Tech and Fighting ICE: Trial Law as Social Change, with Ben & Rahul

How do you force a trillion-dollar company to do the right thing? Rahul Ravipudi's answer runs on cold economics: big companies won't behave until it's more expensive not to. That's the pressure trial lawyers are putting on Meta, TikTok, Snap, and YouTube in the litigation over kids' mental health. In this wide-ranging conversation, hosts Ben Gideon and Rahul trade notes on cases that sit far outside most trial lawyers' wheelhouses. Ben shares about his civil rights fight against Immigration and
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Aug. 31, 2026

Your Software Won't Win the Trial, with Sara Cordrey

What if the most powerful AI in your practice still isn't the thing winning your cases? Sara Cordrey, CEO and co-founder of the legal AI platform Parambil, built with chief medical officer Dr. Ralph Horwitz, argues that technology is leverage—not a substitute for a lawyer's judgment or for the medical record itself. Drawing on her McKinsey work analyzing gaps in patient care, she explains how purpose-built AI helps trial lawyers rip through records, reorder how cases get worked up, and surface i
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Aug. 21, 2026

Build an Intake Engine That Actually Scales, with Ben Gideon and Jeff Wright

Most law firms treat revenue as their north-star metric. Ben Gideon and Jeff Wright argue that's a cop-out — and make the case for a sharper one: qualified cases. They break down the front-end engine Gideon Asen built to generate them: the Intake, Evaluation, and Core Case Unit (IECU), which vets every new inquiry so the firm's trial lawyers never spend time on cases that aren't worth it. Ben lays out the four goals behind the unit — and why it should ultimately fund itself. Jeff shares how the
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Aug. 6, 2026

Attorney Compensation, with Ben Gideon and Jeff Wright

Attorney compensation is today's topic, and Ben Gideon and Jeff Wright pull back the curtain on a structure most law firms don't use. When Ben and his partner Taylor founded Gideon Asen, they made a conscious decision never to create a path to equity partnership. Ben explains the "agency cost" problem that sets in once ownership gets too diffuse, then walks through their first bonus system's costly failure — arbitrary payouts that bred resentment instead of goodwill. Jeff and Ben unpack the curr
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Aug. 3, 2026

Two Minutes to Win the Jury with Robert Hirschhorn

Jury consultant Robert Hirschhorn built his career on a promise to his late wife and mentor, Cathy Bennett: make her tools accessible to lawyers who couldn't otherwise afford them. That promise became VerdictHub, an AI tool that runs venue-specific surveys using the equivalent of 500 "digital jurors," with results delivered in three days for $3,000. Robert joins Ben Gideon and Rahul Ravipudi to break down when a two-minute voir dire can outperform an hour-long one, why he's reversed course on ju